What about Wing and Mender? I was always unclear if Woodlock and Rainsong kept recognizing after Newstar, like Moonshade and Strongbow did with all their kids, or since Mender and Wing and Newstar are so close in age, maybe they recognized once for oldest. Rainsong is Pike's sister and I was led to believe Rain recognized her mom. Therefore I just assumed Rainsong and Woodlock didn't need to rely on recognition only. I guess that some elven women are super fertile, like Rainsong and some apparently have fibroids or something else that hinders reproduction, like Nightfall... Which would explain why recogniton never came naturally for her.