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Rain the Healer

Kitt

[color=orange:915ef34f9b]Okay, so he wasn't as great as Leetah or maybe even Mender, but he always gave it his all! How awesome is he? :)[/color:915ef34f9b]

Willowspring

omg... he was so awesome... Very very very pretty... And those abs... *drool* okay i'm going to read about him more... Now i wonder what would have happened if Rain had survived the madcoil attack (thank you Wingthing!!!) and went with the wolfriders to the sunvillage...

Elsa

Rain seemed like the kind of healer who didn't need magic to heal. I think he's a great character, so full of optimism and hope and love.

He also looks like Tyleet's long-lost twin, though there isn't any real blood connection.

Kitt

[color=green:fc4d8e9db7]They really do look alike :?[/color:fc4d8e9db7]

Willowspring

who was it that drew the two of them together for the impossible couples???

Kitt

[color=green:146ef6c950]I have no idea :? Strange...he's gotta be related, somehow.[/color:146ef6c950]

xenophile80

Well, technically aren't all the wolfriders related to some degree? Seems like there's also been enough breeding within the tribe for enough generations to further close the gap between the branches of thier family trees...

Elsa

He's not her grandparent, though I suppose they [i:9e77cf9955]could[/i:9e77cf9955] make Redlance out to be Rain's son. They share the same gentle temperament, red hair and they both have magical abilities. However, Redlance is never referred to as being Rainsong and Pike's brother.

Rain was also much older than both Nighfall and Redlance, and therefore unlikely to be a sibling of either.

... Actually, Longbranch was the father of Nightfall, and he was the oldest living Wolfrider at the time. It's possible that Rain was Longbranch's son from a previous recognition, which would make him Tyleet's uncle. (But obviously that's just me speculating.)

Nightshadow

I love Rain!! He is one of my favorites! He was kind, gentle and he really cared about the whole tribe. Too bad he died in the whole madcoil thing. and such a brutal way to go! Unhappy He derserved better! I wonder what it would be like if he had met other healers like Leetah or Mender...

Could anyone post some pictures of him here? That would be great!

cactus

These were the only ones I had ready on my computer. I can scan some more later :D .


Nightshadow

Thanks cactus! :D

redshine

I was nearly about to join into all the drooling over Rain on the Rillfisher's Deafness Thread over at the Great Egg when I thought that this might be a better place to do so ...

Anyway - yep, I fully agree with all of you who wrote that before - he's definitely hot in that pic!!!!!

[img:d71eccbd6c]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/Willowspring/Rillfishersfever.jpg[/img:d71eccbd6c]

Sorry for the size of this - I 'stole' it directly from the other thread ...

Trollbabe

hnich wrote: I never quite understood [Rain's] powers though...in the original quest, I thought that he was just an herbs and comfort healer like old maggoty and shenshen "his hands were cool, he could sing pain away so softly", but I think in Wolfrider he has the magic, but it's not very strong... it's probably both actually, not being as strong as leetah, etc. probably means he had to complement it with natural healing too.."

When the Wolfriders first referred to him as "Rain the healer", in the narration of Madcoil's attack, I assumed he was the tribe's magic healer. The fact that he is the first to die emphasizes his importance. No one who survives Madcoil's attack benefits from his healing gift. Still, Wolfriders retained a knowledge of mundane healing, as when Skywise sought out whistling leaves to heal Cutter's fever.

Rain was essentially a general practitioner. The Sun Folk had specialists. Leetah specialized in magical healing, while her sister Shenshen practiced mundane healing. I think the fact that her sister could handle this specialty is probably why Leetah didn't use natural healing techniques.

MichaelChandler

Rain.... all i can say is rain.... he wasn't as cool as Leetah or mender, but still, that stupid monster Madcoil shouldn't have killed him (and if he was destined to die, why could he have at least not died first)! R ya with me!!!

Trollbabe

I think it was best that "gentle" Rain died first, to spare him the pain of seeing others die horribly.

BTW I have a theory about healers in EQ. I think they are at least partially inspired by the amount of time Mrs. Pini has had to spend in the hands of doctors, nurses and therapists due to her hip problem.

Quiver

Do we know who Mrs Rain was? I've never heard a name, but I was suspecting that it was someone who was still with the tribe but had Recognized someone else. I had a theory that it was Rillfisher, but if the lady in the first panel here was Mrs Rain then it can't be:

Apogee

I don't know if her name was revealed in the comics, actually... Hm. Rillfisher is Treestum's recognized, and Dewshine's mother.

The only other names of wolfriders of that era I know are Crescent, dead before Madcoil; Foxfur, Brown Berry and Longbranch - all dead at Madcoil's touch. Brownberry maybe? I can't recall.

Embala

There where more ... seen in the BotC comics andsome of them named in the prose novels:
Briar, Moth, Brightwater, Amber, Far-Touch and River (according to The Wolfrider's Guide)

And ther must have been even more during the about 1000 years of Bearcla's chieftime - faces never shown, names never revieal. We now almost nothing about the parents of most of the adults at Q1.

Tenderfoot

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Embala

We now almost nothing about the parents of most of the adults at Q1.



Which means we can make up our own :twisted:

Lupine

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Quiver

Do we know who Mrs Rain was? I've never heard a name, but I was suspecting that it was someone who was still with the tribe but had Recognized someone else. I had a theory that it was Rillfisher, but if the lady in the first panel here was Mrs Rain then it can't be:

The first picture? I'm pretty sure that "lady" is Shale.

Quiver



Oh yeah, I think you're right. I thought it was Shale, but then I thought it looked like someone wearing a miniskirt(?)

Yet Mrs Rain remains unknown. I think a lot of the Wolfriders kept Recognizing different partners and that they are all quite closely related. That might be the reason why Wendy hasn't said that much about who were whose parents. It would look conspicuous to a new reader that might not know that much about elfin genetics.

MissGillespie

Maybe this picture has a similar history like the picture of "Kimo's father, dead Go-Back behind Scouter" :)

Quiver

You mean that it might have been Mrs Rain who later became Shale? I don't think so: the first above is from Hidden Years 9.5 and the second from Hidden Years 5. But I see your point. The first person does look more like a female. It's really only the elbow-tassles that identifies him as Shale. The scene where he is held by Rain is repeated a third time in Wolfrider!:



I can see why people think that Shale was Rain's son. Why not?

The miniskirt confuses me though. Wendy pencilled HY9.5 but the inker and colourist might not have known this person was Shale and the costume was muddled up.

MissGillespie

I was joking Wink .

Besides, the issue about Skywise's parents pre-dates HY9.5, so it would be Shale, who becomes Rain's girl.

Aaaand, I really don't see a Sun Villager in HY4 (5?), the picture was just altered for SatS. Does it really matter? There's no altering in the story, soo

lunakat

If any wolfrider was going to have children with more than one mate, it would have been Rain. He could have controlled that, being a healer. It always seemed to me that Pike, in addition to being an experiment in being born outside of recognition, might also have had a different mother than Rainsong... or Shale, if Shale were Rain's son.

Bearclaw tells Cutter that a wolfrider's life is short and sharp- like a bolt of fire in the night. Why would he say that if his tribemates tended to live to a ripe old age? We know that several elves of the previous generation died off. Trueflight disappeared. Rillfisher died. Clearbrook's daughter (who we never met) also died. Rainsong and Pike's parents. Skywise's parents. Someone named "moss" who appeared in the BoTC books, but never in the comics. Etc.

And then there are the elves like Redlance and Foxfur, Brownberry, etc... who don't seem as old as Longreah, Treestump or Bearclaw- but perhaps around the same age as Strongbow... and they must have had parents who passed on.

I think Rain might have had multiple mates- at least a couple.

Quiver

Definitely, Luna. To be honest, I don't quite trust Wolfrider! to be quite the truth: it looks like a lot of the couples that we have seen before - One-eye and Clearbrook, Shale and Eyes-high, Treestump and Rillfisher - are lifemates before they have had cubs and are therefore not Recognized then. It just seems quite unlikely that the person they had chosen to be momogamous with happen to be the one they would later Recognize. I thought I knew the Wolfriders to be more promiscuous, although I can see the reasons for not showing this. And there are good reasons for W&R to not tell us who everyone's parents were because they are likely to all be very closely related. Not that elves care about things like that. As for Rain, yes, I think he's the dad of a lot of them. He does seem like the ideal dad!

Nowth

[quote:b5e92e2fe7]I thought I knew the Wolfriders to be more promiscuous, although I can see the reasons for not showing this. And there are good reasons for W&R to not tell us who everyone's parents were because they are likely to all be very closely related.[/quote:b5e92e2fe7]
And maybe it's just not that important to W&R? The story doesn't stand or fall with who was whose whatever, or with us knowing it.

lunakat

it's not the promiscuity factor... it's the neat little wrap ups. Like Longreach and Brownberry being Nightfall's parents (clearly an afterthought)- or Kahvi being Two Spear's daughter! Of course, I got the impression that the Go Backs were descendant's of Two Spear's group after reading book 4- but you would think that they would be several generations removed! (yes, i know the 'magic pool' explanation- please don't quote it! It's entirely contrived!)

There should be any number of anonymous Wolfriders who have passed away, who filled out previous generations. Not everything has to be this nice little trite connection to the little group of main characters we have today. It just doesn't help my suspension of disbelief.

Embala

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I was nearly about to join into all the drooling over Rain on the Rillfisher's Deafness Thread over at the Great Egg when I thought that this might be a better place to do so ...



Anyway - yep, I fully agree with all of you who wrote that before - he's definitely hot in that pic!!!!!







Sorry for the size of this - I 'stole' it directly from the other thread ...

Startear

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I think this image speaks stronger than the one from Wolfrider, by not seeing his face.

And yes, I like Rain. His clothes, with the loincloth and vest is an odd choice, but the character always gave everything he got. What more can anyone ask? What better trait is there?

Vojira

It makes me wonder why Brownberry is the other person is holding Shale's body...

Embala

This picture led to speculations that Brownberry might have been his mother ... and Rain his father. As far as I remember this discussion it was fan speculation without a clear hint for it.

In my opinion Rain is griefing about the death a tribe mate ... a loss that is made worse by the fact that he was too late to help.
And Brownberry ... perhaps she was simply the first one being there. Shale might have been a close friend, even a lovemate - or a cubling she helped to raise.

Anything is possible - but ... Does it really matter? The Wolfriders at that time were small enough in number and close enough in feeling and caring to be more like a family than a tribe.



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Vojira

To some it does. *Shrugs* Fans speculate. It's what they do. Seeing how little info there is about some of the characters, I think it's easy to start grabbing onto anything that get's thrown our way and then analyse the heck out of it.
I think it springs from a need to give these background characters more depth.
I can understand why. The current elves really don't interest me whatsoever.

On topic:
I always liked Rain. He had a very nice calm feel to him.

Embala

I think speculation is part of the appeal of EQ. When there would be known everything about everyone it would become rather tecnical ... like an encyclopedia.

I would like to have "short stories" about background characters to learn more about them. Rain would be a great choice for a start.

RedheadEmber

Here's my theory regarding Rain's children:

It's sort of a two possible versions in one theory; either (a) Rain was in a steady three-mating with Rainsong's and Pike's respective mother when he recognized Rainsong's mother, or (b) he was in a steady lovemating with Pike's mother when he recognized Rainsong's mother, who then went on to three-mate with them.
When he decided to attempt his induced recognition thing Rainsong's mother told him to use Pike's mother as his "test object".

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Yes! I can always come up with a good "excuse" for three-matings!

Night_Tanem

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