Wing's and Bethia's daughter. A really beautifull woman. But sometimes I wish we could have seen more of her.
I think she is a special woman, since she is part wolfrider and part sun-villager.
Then I actually think of this, a wild wolfrider look in her eyes...
... to this. A inocent sun-villager.
I have a really problem with Serrin; she appears to have black hair, where her father Wing had blond and her mother Bethia had brown. Hey, what's going on? :?
Yeah, and she seems to have brown eyes, but Bethia has green and Wing has blue? :?
Welllll.... she could have very dark brown hair.
The eyes... Normally on earth anyone in a bright hot environment like the desert will start to have darker eyes to adjust to the radiation. It's ... possible... that she's a pretty good example of quickly evolving elf genetics.
... It's also possible that Barry Blair utterly didn't know what he was doing when he made up a character purely for the purpose of having sex.
Then why did Kimo get brown eyes too? :|
If you desperately will make sense of it:
hair color and eye color is NOT necessarily passed on from parent to child - grandparents can have a big deal in it. And we know nothing about Bethia's parents.
... It's also possible that Barry Blair utterly didn't know what he was doing when he made up a character purely for the purpose of having sex.[/quote:524c79e6ee]
But yeah, the grandparents' haircolor might have something to do with it.
Seriously. But is the milkman a wolfrider, a villager or a strange elf from a far off land? HUH?
honestly, I really don't think that you have to conclude "that the parents looks, so the child has to be like that". Even in our "world of one moon-human kind" there are mutations, or kids who don't look like their parents at all. (Why is Timmorns body-fur reddish, even though his father is shown in a greyish-brown) (Timmain doesn't count, she can deliberately choose her look )
Both of my sons very different from each other. My oldest has the olive complexion like me with medium brown hair and eyes, where my hair is a dark brown and my eyes are brown with a hint of gold in them. He looks more like his Uncle and Grandma than me. My youngest has a fair complexion, light brown hair (he was a towhead as a toddler), and grey eyes that actually change color from blue to grey to green. He looks somewhat like his father, but doesn't resemble me in anyway. The only thing both boys have in common with is my small nose. Other than that the only way I know they are mine is the fact I gave birth to them. :D
Maybe it is so that she have the hair and the eyes from Bethia's parents?
But something made me a little confused.
How did they recognized? We never saw it, so when did they recognize?
[quote:8980655434="Apogee"]Seriously. But is the milkman a wolfrider, a villager or a strange elf from a far off land? HUH?[/quote:8980655434]
A villager. Judging by the hair.
Is that why she's frightened? After all, she's the one with the KNIFE... o.0
Or maybe they recognized before Dart wented to sleep in wrapestuff, but he was so sad after Shu-Shen was killed that he didn't want to join at first with Serrin? And maybe Serrin was scared to for a while?
Hrm, didn't know.
Maybe their colors mixed? That happened with Ember. Cutter's blond hair 'melted' with Leetah's reddish brown hair and produced red
[quote:e2dc250cbb="Tenderfoot"]Hrm, didn't know.
Maybe their colors mixed? That happened with Ember. Cutter's blond hair 'melted' with Leetah's reddish brown hair and produced red[/quote:e2dc250cbb]
There are genes which are co-dominant, which produces a pink flower when the parents are white and red, or in the Ember case, red hair from an auburn mother and a pale blond father. Also remember that there could be several genes involved here. I learned that if a really dark-skinned man has a baby with a very pale woman, their baby has 16 potential skin colours.
There is also the question if genes work with elves as they do for humans. Could very well be that light hair is dominant with them or something.
[quote:e2dd6e216d="mournsong"]There is also the question if genes work with elves as they do for humans. Could very well be that light hair is dominant with them or something.[/quote:e2dd6e216d]
Good point-I was going there. It could also be that coulor A + coulor B produces coulor C when combined. This happens with guppies-body coulor blonde and body coulor blue can have white (not albinos) babies
I really don't 'get' the whole pre-recognition thing that Serrin and Dart had. Dart had been in wrapstuff for quite a while so it's not as if Serrin had spent any time with him, and if you can pre-recognise an elf who isn't actually there with you, why aren't other elves doing it with absent elves? The Scouter/Tyleet thing was different, they saw each other every day. I mean, is there a distance factor, ie you can pre-recognise someone who's physical body is within a 5 mile radius for example even if you've never actually seen them?
Or maybe they recognized in their dreams, like Brill and Sunstream did when he sent his spirit out and her spirit escaped when she was dreaming? Maybe something like that happened just that their souls meeted eachother in the dream and then recognizion happened between them?
Seems weird to me, too. But then the whole concept of recognition seems to be continually evolving. I've noticed a lot of people on the scroll have slightly different ideas about it.
In Scouter and Tyleet's case there did seem to some kind of pull even before the whole eyes-meet-eyes thing, which I don't think was ever shown before. Maybe as time goes on and the elves become less and less recognition is getting more demanding?
Maybe Cutter brought about the burning down of the forest because of an undeniable drive to get to the desert. :roll:
[quote:859d3cb8ed="jeb"] Maybe as time goes on and the elves become less and less recognition is getting more demanding?[/quote:859d3cb8ed]
It's true, the frequency of Recognition has something to do with population. There were many Recognitions in Timmorn's time. Rainsong was induced to replenish the tribe by the loss of so many lives in Madcoil's attack.
Rainsong was induced? That explains her unusual fecundity. She was obviously an experiment by Rain to produce a hyper fertile elf. Probably after his attempt producing Pike he realized the key was in the female of the species.
Just some drawings I made of Serrin
And what if she had been a jackwolfrider.
Very VERY Beautifull!!
It's great you brought your drawings to the character thread, too! A very pleasant re-meeting
A lovely dancer ... a beautiful jackwolf rider What-If ... and the group picture is so full of live and joy. They are fitting well together - Love it, Cleopatra!
The colored version of Serrin the Jack wolfrider.
My favorite picture from New Blood with Serrin.
love that picture!
I can never see that name without thinking of sarin gas.
I would love tho see her drawn by Wendy - or someone closer to her style, at least.
... though, in this early issues Blair was as true to EQ style as he was probably able to.
Just a thought; is it possible that Serrin was actually older than Dart, in terms of years lived when they recognized? It's a pretty longwinded chain-of-thoughts, but I'll try to break it down:
- Dart is an infant during the Madcoil Attack, which took place seven(?) years before EQ1. The main part of OQ takes place seven years after EQ1 (making Dart 14)
- SaBM takes place three years after OQ (Dart is 17)
- Venka is born during SaBM (making her 17 years younger than Dart)
- Venka is still fairly young when Kahvi leaves during KoBW, she does tell Rayek that "The Wolfriders finished by upbringing", Probably less than 100-years-old (Dart's age is Venka's+17)
- Let's assume Kahvi and Tyldak when directly to the Go-Back lodge after leaving the Thorny Mountain holt, not much travel time from there to Sorrow's End either (especially with the eagels)
- Judging by Bethia's condition Serrin is probably born very soon after HY#2
- The 'Go-Back Attack' seems to take place about a year after Kahvi's initial raid...
- Dart goes into wrapstuff not long after the attack (while Serrin is still a young child)
- The narration says that "a very long time" passes before Serrin, who's all grown up and has a lifemate, cuts Dart out of the wrapstuff. "A very long time." To me that could easily be 500 years. Or even 1000! Serrin and Talmah could've been lifemates for centuries when this little 'developement' occurs...
Long story short - it is not possible that Serrin is older ... it's probable.
Once I tried to count the cuts in the calendar tree. I don't remember exactly but it would make Venka something between 20 and 30 years when Kahvi left. Always had the impression that Kahvi havn't lost time anyway.
The more I think about it, the more I like to imagine that Talmah played pretty much the same role in the Dart-Serrin recognition as Dewshine played in the Scouter-Tyleet recognition. "Go get him!"
Is it just me, or does Dart seem to have a problem with commitment?
I... don't know xD it is true that the situation wasn't ideal...He was having a pretty bad time at the time he recognized...
Dart is so wrapped up ini baby sister Chitter, but I wonder if he thinks much of his own family.
So apparently both Serrin and Talmah is alive? At least according to the Who's Who, and someone on tumblr said that Moonshade mentioned Serrin's name?
They're probably referring to this scene:
Yes, Moonshade does seem to imply that Serrin is indeed still alive, but pretty much a stranger to Dart.
I've spent most of yesterday trying to get trough New Blood, because I was confused about the background of this character, and Dart, and Windkin, and Kimo... But, just like back in the 90's it made me run for the hills. The less said about my opinion of it probably the better :o3 Is Bethia still alive?
@Elwing All you need to read to learn about Serrin, Dart's Recognition and their cub is NB #13: http://elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/NB/NB13/_New%20Blood%20-%2013_page=1#_1
Serrin only shows up in issue 13, and in few panels, so it is easy to take a quick look. :x